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		<title>By: My top 10 posts of 2009 &#124; Adventures in Corporate Education</title>
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		<dc:creator>My top 10 posts of 2009 &#124; Adventures in Corporate Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gminks</title>
		<link>http://gminks.edublogs.org/2009/08/11/the-power-of-language-what-does-sexy-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>gminks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave are you telling me sexy is an actual tech term too? 

Rakiesha your posts are great. I think we are missing each other&#039;s meanings. My hope in writing was to open dialogue, and reinforce the idea that not all women have the same experience. I&#039;m so happy that in spite of our seemingly similar backgrounds, you have not had to face the barriers I&#039;ve encountered.

Mike thanks for the mention of &quot;halo effect&quot;, I had never heard of that term. Don&#039;t you think language reinforces the halo effect? Isn&#039;t cognition shaped by social experiences, and therefore words? (I&#039;m wondering this because I always think backwards from the lack of social awareness because of my experiences with autism). Fascinating subject, wish I had more than a week before classes start again.

Sarah, I think the &quot;between your legs&quot; statement was said in all sincerity and honesty too. That&#039;s really why I felt impelled to call it out - someone who obviously wants to make a difference is using words that will actually put up barriers to communicating with certain groups. We&#039;ll never move forward if that is the case.

Language is so powerful. Maybe I&#039;ll write a post on that after I read more on halo effects...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave are you telling me sexy is an actual tech term too? </p>
<p>Rakiesha your posts are great. I think we are missing each other&#8217;s meanings. My hope in writing was to open dialogue, and reinforce the idea that not all women have the same experience. I&#8217;m so happy that in spite of our seemingly similar backgrounds, you have not had to face the barriers I&#8217;ve encountered.</p>
<p>Mike thanks for the mention of &#8220;halo effect&#8221;, I had never heard of that term. Don&#8217;t you think language reinforces the halo effect? Isn&#8217;t cognition shaped by social experiences, and therefore words? (I&#8217;m wondering this because I always think backwards from the lack of social awareness because of my experiences with autism). Fascinating subject, wish I had more than a week before classes start again.</p>
<p>Sarah, I think the &#8220;between your legs&#8221; statement was said in all sincerity and honesty too. That&#8217;s really why I felt impelled to call it out &#8211; someone who obviously wants to make a difference is using words that will actually put up barriers to communicating with certain groups. We&#8217;ll never move forward if that is the case.</p>
<p>Language is so powerful. Maybe I&#8217;ll write a post on that after I read more on halo effects&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Wurrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Wurrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your posts on this. I left that session feeling like you and I were shouting at the wind a bit; we seemed to be among the few there who were even willing to acknowledge that we live in a sexist culture. I think the prevailing attitude lately seems to be that just becuase it&#039;s no longer the 1950s, that sexism is over and the onus for fixing this conference problem (and we all do seem to agree that it&#039;s a problem) lies entirely with the women. 

The concept of privilege (in this case male privilege) is a thorny one to tackle. Especially considering the overwhelming refusal by most to even believe it exists. Posts like the ones you&#039;ve written are brave, I applaud you!

I also thank you for being the only blogger I&#039;ve read so far to address the ugliness of the &quot;what&#039;s between your legs&quot; comment. I have a LOT of respect for the guy who said it, and I don&#039;t think he realized he was being offensive (and certainly not when most of the crowd burst into actual *applause* after he said it) when he said it, but boiling this issue down to a base statement like that is actually part of the problem--no matter the intentions behind it. 

Thanks for your thoughts, reading all the fallout from that session has been fascinating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your posts on this. I left that session feeling like you and I were shouting at the wind a bit; we seemed to be among the few there who were even willing to acknowledge that we live in a sexist culture. I think the prevailing attitude lately seems to be that just becuase it&#8217;s no longer the 1950s, that sexism is over and the onus for fixing this conference problem (and we all do seem to agree that it&#8217;s a problem) lies entirely with the women. </p>
<p>The concept of privilege (in this case male privilege) is a thorny one to tackle. Especially considering the overwhelming refusal by most to even believe it exists. Posts like the ones you&#8217;ve written are brave, I applaud you!</p>
<p>I also thank you for being the only blogger I&#8217;ve read so far to address the ugliness of the &#8220;what&#8217;s between your legs&#8221; comment. I have a LOT of respect for the guy who said it, and I don&#8217;t think he realized he was being offensive (and certainly not when most of the crowd burst into actual *applause* after he said it) when he said it, but boiling this issue down to a base statement like that is actually part of the problem&#8211;no matter the intentions behind it. </p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts, reading all the fallout from that session has been fascinating!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gina,
I&#039;m not sure what the post has to do with the &#039;power of language,&#039; except in the the broadest terms. 

Having read the post you referenced (and if I interpret the irreverent tone of the &quot;Not so processed thoughts from the Girl Power Session at PCB4&quot; post correctly) I have to agree with the previous commenter, that in this context, &quot;sexy&quot; is being used in the sense of &quot;generally attractive, interesting, or glamourous&quot; (M-W online) rather than in the gender-political sense, as in &quot;self-hate isn&#039;t attractive.&quot; 

Or, indeed, interesting.   

In this sense then, I can certainly understand how software, music, food, ideas even can exhibit a certain &#039;sexiness&#039; - sometimes this is referred to as a cognitive bias known as a &quot;halo effect&quot; - a phenomenon that has been empirically tested and validated.  

Out of curiosity, what factors would cause a lower number of female speakers to contribute at the event you refer to, in your view? 

Regards,
Michael
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gina,<br />
I&#8217;m not sure what the post has to do with the &#8216;power of language,&#8217; except in the the broadest terms. </p>
<p>Having read the post you referenced (and if I interpret the irreverent tone of the &#8220;Not so processed thoughts from the Girl Power Session at PCB4&#8243; post correctly) I have to agree with the previous commenter, that in this context, &#8220;sexy&#8221; is being used in the sense of &#8220;generally attractive, interesting, or glamourous&#8221; (M-W online) rather than in the gender-political sense, as in &#8220;self-hate isn&#8217;t attractive.&#8221; </p>
<p>Or, indeed, interesting.   </p>
<p>In this sense then, I can certainly understand how software, music, food, ideas even can exhibit a certain &#8216;sexiness&#8217; &#8211; sometimes this is referred to as a cognitive bias known as a &#8220;halo effect&#8221; &#8211; a phenomenon that has been empirically tested and validated.  </p>
<p>Out of curiosity, what factors would cause a lower number of female speakers to contribute at the event you refer to, in your view? </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Michael<br />
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		<title>By: Rakiesha Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rakiesha Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,
I was inspired to address some of the misconceptions that you might have had, and expressed in your post. Check it out: 

http://sbexperiment.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/is-it-blind-arrogance-or-good-upbringing-the-idea-of-the-ballsy-woman-in-todays-society/

If you want to talk more about building community, then hit me up @rawrmeans143</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
I was inspired to address some of the misconceptions that you might have had, and expressed in your post. Check it out: </p>
<p><a href="http://sbexperiment.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/is-it-blind-arrogance-or-good-upbringing-the-idea-of-the-ballsy-woman-in-todays-society/" rel="nofollow">http://sbexperiment.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/is-it-blind-arrogance-or-good-upbringing-the-idea-of-the-ballsy-woman-in-todays-society/</a></p>
<p>If you want to talk more about building community, then hit me up @rawrmeans143</p>
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		<title>By: Is it blind arrogance or good upbringing? The idea of the ballsy woman in today&#8217;s society&#8230; &#171; social.butterfly.experiment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is it blind arrogance or good upbringing? The idea of the ballsy woman in today&#8217;s society&#8230; &#171; social.butterfly.experiment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I peeped a blog post commenting on my Girl Power Session article that said that this: And because she refuses to acknowledge that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Spencer</title>
		<link>http://gminks.edublogs.org/2009/08/11/the-power-of-language-what-does-sexy-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>David Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, there&#039;s no shortage of self-confidence, brash attitude, and controversial statements coming from 24 year-olds of any variety.  There never has been.  If it weren&#039;t for them we&#039;d probably never make progress.

This 24 year-old was born into a world very different from the ones we were born into.  It only makes sense that she&#039;s playing by different rules and seeing through different lenses.

When she does encounter an obstacle she doesn&#039;t expect, she&#039;ll handle it in a different way than we would.  

As for defining sexy, in product design I always took it to mean designed to appeal to the subconscious.  An iPhone is sexy; a Blackberry is not.  Software that makes you go &quot;Whoa... I didn&#039;t know you could do that,&quot; is sexy.  Microsoft Word is not.

I can&#039;t answer what your blogger thinks sexy means.  But I can guess from context she&#039;s talking about empowerment, about risk-taking, about living in the moment and not focusing on the past.  It&#039;s a strange word to co-opt but it gets your attention and I&#039;m guessing that&#039;s her intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, there&#8217;s no shortage of self-confidence, brash attitude, and controversial statements coming from 24 year-olds of any variety.  There never has been.  If it weren&#8217;t for them we&#8217;d probably never make progress.</p>
<p>This 24 year-old was born into a world very different from the ones we were born into.  It only makes sense that she&#8217;s playing by different rules and seeing through different lenses.</p>
<p>When she does encounter an obstacle she doesn&#8217;t expect, she&#8217;ll handle it in a different way than we would.  </p>
<p>As for defining sexy, in product design I always took it to mean designed to appeal to the subconscious.  An iPhone is sexy; a Blackberry is not.  Software that makes you go &#8220;Whoa&#8230; I didn&#8217;t know you could do that,&#8221; is sexy.  Microsoft Word is not.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t answer what your blogger thinks sexy means.  But I can guess from context she&#8217;s talking about empowerment, about risk-taking, about living in the moment and not focusing on the past.  It&#8217;s a strange word to co-opt but it gets your attention and I&#8217;m guessing that&#8217;s her intent.</p>
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